[Paul takes that in quietly, just considering it for a moment. Trying to find a way to explain faith to someone who doesn't explicitly have any.]

There's no guarantee that we'll reach any of our goals. We can make them all we want, and then we can get murdered tomorrow and none of that will come to fruition.

I think it's just a matter of the goals we're setting being less concrete. Things we have less of a concept of, because we've never personally experienced them. We can set a goal to do a specific thing during the day, because we know that specific thing can be done. Whereas a long-term goal that's less concrete seems impossible, but there's no more guarantee that it is than there is a guarantee that it isn't.

I think that just leaves the element of fear, when it comes to less concrete goals. Do you agree with that, or...?